273 | LER | +< dw (y)n gwybod dan ni (ddi)m fod i ladd ar +// . |
| | be.1S.PRESbe.V.1S.PRES PRTPRT know.NONFINknow.V.INFIN be.1PL.PRESbe.V.1P.PRES PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P NEGnot.ADV+SM be.NONFINbe.V.INFIN+SM toto.PREP kill.NONFINkill.V.INFIN+SM onon.PREP |
| | I know we're not supposed to slag off... |
324 | LER | (be)causeE # os ti mynd yna <mae (y)n oddCE i ni mynd â> [//] mae (y)n # wirion mynd â dau garCE dydy a chdithau mynd yna dydy . |
| | becausebecause.CONJ ifif.CONJ PRON.2Syou.PRON.2S go.NONFINgo.V.INFIN therethere.ADV be.3S.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES PRTPRT oddodd.ADJ forto.PREP PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P go.NONFINgo.V.INFIN withwith.PREP be.3S.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES PRTPRT sillysilly.ADJ+SM.[or].check.V.1P.PAST+SM.[or].check.V.3P.PAST+SM go.NONFINgo.V.INFIN withwith.PREP two.Mtwo.NUM.M carcar.N.SG+SM be.3S.PRES.NEGbe.V.3S.PRES.NEG andand.CONJ PRON.2Sunk go.NONFINgo.V.INFIN therethere.ADV be.3S.PRES.NEGbe.V.3S.PRES.NEG |
| | because if you're going there, it's odd for us to take...it's silly for us to take two cars, isn't it, with you going there, isn't it |
373 | LER | +" ohCE dan ni (we)di arfer . |
| | IMoh.IM be.1PL.PRESbe.V.1P.PRES PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P PRT.PASTafter.PREP use.NONFINuse.V.INFIN |
| | "oh, we're used to it" |
378 | LER | a ni oedd yn roid +// . |
| | andand.CONJ PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P be.3S.IMPbe.V.3S.IMPERF PRTPRT put.NONFINgive.V.INFIN+SM |
| | and it was us who'd put... |
379 | LER | ohCE timod oedden ni roid y setsCE i_fyny a bob_dim de . |
| | IMoh.IM know.2Sknow.V.2S.PRES be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P put.NONFINgive.V.INFIN+SM DETthe.DET.DEF setsset.N.SG+PL upup.ADV andand.CONJ everythingeverything.PRON.[or].everything.N.M.SG+SM TAGbe.IM+SM |
| | oh you know, we'd put up the sets and everything, you know |
391 | LER | ond <oedd o> [//] <oedden nhw &d> [///] erCE <oedd eu [?]> [///] # mae nhw (we)di deud &gɪ [//] <gawn ni pre(s)> [/] gawn ni pres yn_ôl # am [/] am ddoe (fe)lly # <bod nhw ddim> [//] # wsti # am bod nhw ddim +/ . |
| | butbut.CONJ be.3S.IMPbe.V.3S.IMPERF PRON.3SMhe.PRON.M.3S be.3PL.IMPbe.V.3P.IMPERF PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P IMer.IM abe.3S.IMPbe.V.3S.IMPERF POSS.3PLtheir.ADJ.POSS.3P be.3PL.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P PRT.PASTafter.PREP say.NONFINsay.V.INFIN get.1PL.NONPASTget.V.1P.PRES+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P moneymoney.N.M.SG get.1PL.NONPASTget.V.1P.PRES+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P moneymoney.N.M.SG backback.ADV forfor.PREP forfor.PREP yesterdayyesterday.ADV thusso.ADV be.NONFINbe.V.INFIN PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P NEGnothing.N.M.SG+SM.[or].not.ADV+SM know.2Sknow.V.2S.PRES forfor.PREP be.NONFINbe.V.INFIN PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P NEGnothing.N.M.SG+SM.[or].not.ADV+SM |
| | but he/it was...they were...er, their...they've said we'll get the money...we'll get the money back for...for yesterday, like, that they haven't...you know, because they haven't... |
391 | LER | ond <oedd o> [//] <oedden nhw &d> [///] erCE <oedd eu [?]> [///] # mae nhw (we)di deud &gɪ [//] <gawn ni pre(s)> [/] gawn ni pres yn_ôl # am [/] am ddoe (fe)lly # <bod nhw ddim> [//] # wsti # am bod nhw ddim +/ . |
| | butbut.CONJ be.3S.IMPbe.V.3S.IMPERF PRON.3SMhe.PRON.M.3S be.3PL.IMPbe.V.3P.IMPERF PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P IMer.IM abe.3S.IMPbe.V.3S.IMPERF POSS.3PLtheir.ADJ.POSS.3P be.3PL.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P PRT.PASTafter.PREP say.NONFINsay.V.INFIN get.1PL.NONPASTget.V.1P.PRES+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P moneymoney.N.M.SG get.1PL.NONPASTget.V.1P.PRES+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P moneymoney.N.M.SG backback.ADV forfor.PREP forfor.PREP yesterdayyesterday.ADV thusso.ADV be.NONFINbe.V.INFIN PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P NEGnothing.N.M.SG+SM.[or].not.ADV+SM know.2Sknow.V.2S.PRES forfor.PREP be.NONFINbe.V.INFIN PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P NEGnothing.N.M.SG+SM.[or].not.ADV+SM |
| | but he/it was...they were...er, their...they've said we'll get the money...we'll get the money back for...for yesterday, like, that they haven't...you know, because they haven't... |
483 | LER | <oedden ni yn> [//] # achos oedden ni yn meddygfa &me [//] &nɔ [//] # umCE newydd doedden . |
| | be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P inPRT.[or].in.PREP becausebecause.CONJ be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P inPRT.[or].in.PREP surgerysurgery.N.F.SG IMum.IM newnew.ADJ be.1PL.IMP.NEGbe.V.3P.IMPERF.NEG |
| | we were at...because we were at the surgery [...] ...um, new, weren't we |
483 | LER | <oedden ni yn> [//] # achos oedden ni yn meddygfa &me [//] &nɔ [//] # umCE newydd doedden . |
| | be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P inPRT.[or].in.PREP becausebecause.CONJ be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P inPRT.[or].in.PREP surgerysurgery.N.F.SG IMum.IM newnew.ADJ be.1PL.IMP.NEGbe.V.3P.IMPERF.NEG |
| | we were at...because we were at the surgery [...] ...um, new, weren't we |
544 | LER | wellCE dw (ddi)m (gwy)bod # os oedden ni (y)n LlandudnoCE neu rywbeth fel (yn)a # aetha hi fewn i [/] # i MarksCE . |
| | wellwell.ADV be.1S.PRESbe.V.1S.PRES NEGnot.ADV+SM know.NONFINknow.V.INFIN ifif.CONJ be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P inin.PREP Llandudnoname oror.CONJ somethingsomething.N.M.SG+SM likelike.CONJ therethere.ADV go.3S.CONDITunk PRON.3SFshe.PRON.F.3S inin.PREP+SM toto.PREP toto.PREP Marksname |
| | well I don't know, if we were in Llandudno or something like that, she'd go into...into Marks |
668 | LER | +" ohCE na xx (r)haid ni fynd rŵan . |
| | IMoh.IM nono.ADV necessitynecessity.N.M.SG PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P go.NONFINgo.V.INFIN+SM nownow.ADV |
| | "oh no [...] we have to go now" |
669 | LER | +" (r)haid ni fynd i gwaith de . |
| | necessitynecessity.N.M.SG PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P go.NONFINgo.V.INFIN+SM toto.PREP workwork.N.M.SG TAGbe.IM+SM |
| | "we have to go to work" |
759 | LER | a dyma hi deud ohCE na (by)sai hi (y)n gofyn wrth GwenithCE yr hogan arall # sy (y)n gwneud y [/] # y [/] y searchesCE efo ni # umCE yr un sy erCE +// . |
| | andand.CONJ herethis_is.ADV PRON.3SFshe.PRON.F.3S say.NONFINsay.V.INFIN IMoh.IM nono.ADV be.3S.CONDITfinger.V.3S.IMPERF PRON.3SFshe.PRON.F.3S ask.NONFINPRT toask.V.INFIN Gwenithby.PREP DETname girlthe.DET.DEF othergirl.N.F.SG be.PRES.RELother.ADJ PRTbe.V.3S.PRES.REL do.NONFINPRT DETmake.V.INFIN DETthe.DET.DEF DETthe.DET.DEF searchesthe.DET.DEF withunk PRON.1PLwith.PREP IMwe.PRON.1P DETum.IM onethe.DET.DEF be.PRES.RELone.NUM IMbe.V.3S.PRES.REL er.IM |
| | and she said oh no, she'd ask Gwenith, the other girl who does the...the...the searches with us, um, the one who, er... |
762 | LER | mae (y)na un yn bob ardal does sy (y)n gyrru nhw i_fewn i ni . |
| | be.3S.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES therethere.ADV oneone.NUM inin.PREP everyeach.PREQ+SM arearegion.N.F.SG.[or].regional.ADJ be.3S.PRES.NEGbe.V.3S.PRES.INDEF.NEG be.PRES.RELbe.V.3S.PRES.REL PRTPRT send.NONFINdrive.V.INFIN PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P inin.PREP toto.PREP PRON.3PLwe.PRON.1P |
| | there's one in every area, isn't there, who sends them in to us |
763 | LER | a (we)dyn dan ni wneud nhw . |
| | andand.CONJ thenafterwards.ADV be.1PL.PRESbe.V.1P.PRES PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P do.NONFINmake.V.INFIN+SM PRON.3PLthey.PRON.3P |
| | and then we do them |
804 | LER | oedden ni # umCE # <yn yr # &kʊ> [//] wellCE yn y # cwrs thingE &m (y)ma dydd erCE +// . |
| | be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P IMum.IM inin.PREP DETthe.DET.DEF wellwell.ADV inin.PREP DETthe.DET.DEF coursecourse.N.M.SG thingthing.N.SG herehere.ADV dayday.N.M.SG IMer.IM |
| | we were, um, in this...well in this course thing on, er... |
940 | LER | dan ni (ddi)m yn diolch digon wchi . |
| | be.1PL.PRESbe.V.1P.PRES PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P NEGnot.ADV+SM PRTPRT thank.NONFINthank.V.INFIN enoughenough.QUAN know.2Sknow.V.2P.PRES |
| | we're not thankful enough, you know |
1013 | LER | anywayE oedden ni wrthi (y)n gwneud rywbeth yn llofft . |
| | anywayanyway.ADV be.3PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.3PLwe.PRON.1P at.3SFto_her.PREP+PRON.F.3S PRTPRT do.NONFINmake.V.INFIN somethingsomething.N.M.SG+SM inPRT.[or].in.PREP bedroombedroom.N.F.SG |
| | anyway, we were busy doing something upstairs |
1085 | LER | well dw i (ddi)m yn gwybod os wnawn ni orffen yr ardd # ta justCE twtio hi ta be wnawn ni . |
| | wellbetter.ADJ.COMP+SM be.1S.PRESbe.V.1S.PRES PRON.1SI.PRON.1S NEGnot.ADV+SM PRTPRT know.NONFINknow.V.INFIN ifif.CONJ do.1PL.NONPASTdo.V.1P.PRES+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P finish.NONFINcomplete.V.INFIN+SM DETthe.DET.DEF gardengarden.N.F.SG+SM orbe.IM justjust.ADV tidy.NONFINtidy.V.INFIN PRON.3SFshe.PRON.F.3S orbe.IM whatwhat.INT do.1PL.NONPASTdo.V.1P.PRES+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P |
| | well I don't know if we'll finish the garden or just tidy it or what we'll do |
1085 | LER | well dw i (ddi)m yn gwybod os wnawn ni orffen yr ardd # ta justCE twtio hi ta be wnawn ni . |
| | wellbetter.ADJ.COMP+SM be.1S.PRESbe.V.1S.PRES PRON.1SI.PRON.1S NEGnot.ADV+SM PRTPRT know.NONFINknow.V.INFIN ifif.CONJ do.1PL.NONPASTdo.V.1P.PRES+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P finish.NONFINcomplete.V.INFIN+SM DETthe.DET.DEF gardengarden.N.F.SG+SM orbe.IM justjust.ADV tidy.NONFINtidy.V.INFIN PRON.3SFshe.PRON.F.3S orbe.IM whatwhat.INT do.1PL.NONPASTdo.V.1P.PRES+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P |
| | well I don't know if we'll finish the garden or just tidy it or what we'll do |
1092 | LER | &gə [//] xx [//] achos yndy mae RobinCE adre efo ni . |
| | becausebecause.CONJ be.3S.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES.EMPH be.3S.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES Robinname homehome.ADV withwith.PREP PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P |
| | [...] because yes, Robin's home with us |
1097 | LER | ac o'n i (y)n deud (ba)sai tŷ tair llofft yn gwneud i ni i ddeud y gwir . |
| | andand.CONJ be.1S.IMPbe.V.1S.IMPERF PRON.1SI.PRON.1S PRTPRT say.NONFINsay.V.INFIN be.3S.CONDITbe.V.3S.PLUPERF househouse.N.M.SG three.Fthree.NUM.F loftbedroom.N.F.SG PRTPRT do.NONFINmake.V.INFIN forto.PREP PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P toto.PREP say.NONFINsay.V.INFIN+SM DETthe.DET.DEF truthtruth.N.M.SG |
| | and I was saying, a three bedroom house would to for us, to tell the truth |
1104 | LER | i ddeud y gwir o [/] o_fewn [//] mewn (y)chydig o flynyddoedd dan ni (we)di symud # tŷ # i dŷ mwy do soCE &d mae (y)r &m mortgageE ni dydy # a (we)di cael GwynCE do timod a talu umCE feesCE y meithrinfa . |
| | toto.PREP say.NONFINsay.V.INFIN+SM DETthe.DET.DEF truthtruth.N.M.SG ofhe.PRON.M.3S withinwithin.PREP.[or].inside.ADV inin.PREP a_littlea_little.QUAN ofof.PREP yearsyears.N.F.PL+SM be.1PL.PRESbe.V.1P.PRES PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P PRT.PASTafter.PREP move.NONFINmove.V.INFIN househouse.N.M.SG toto.PREP househouse.N.M.SG+SM biggermore.ADJ.COMP yescome.V.1S.PRES.[or].yes.ADV.PAST.[or].roof.N.M.SG+SM soso.ADV be.3S.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES DETthe.DET.DEF mortgagemortgage.N.SG PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P be.3S.PRES.NEGbe.V.3S.PRES.NEG andand.CONJ PRT.PASTafter.PREP get.NONFINget.V.INFIN Gwynname yescome.V.1S.PRES.[or].yes.ADV.PAST.[or].roof.N.M.SG+SM know.2Sknow.V.2S.PRES andand.CONJ pay.NONFINpay.V.INFIN IMum.IM feesfee.N.SG+PL.[or].bee.N.SG+SM+PL.[or].mee.N.SG+SM+PL DETthe.DET.DEF nurseryunk |
| | to tell the truth, within...in a few years we've moved house to a bigger house, haven't we, so our mortgage, isn't it, and had Gwyn, haven't we, you know, and paid, um, the nursery fees |
1104 | LER | i ddeud y gwir o [/] o_fewn [//] mewn (y)chydig o flynyddoedd dan ni (we)di symud # tŷ # i dŷ mwy do soCE &d mae (y)r &m mortgageE ni dydy # a (we)di cael GwynCE do timod a talu umCE feesCE y meithrinfa . |
| | toto.PREP say.NONFINsay.V.INFIN+SM DETthe.DET.DEF truthtruth.N.M.SG ofhe.PRON.M.3S withinwithin.PREP.[or].inside.ADV inin.PREP a_littlea_little.QUAN ofof.PREP yearsyears.N.F.PL+SM be.1PL.PRESbe.V.1P.PRES PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P PRT.PASTafter.PREP move.NONFINmove.V.INFIN househouse.N.M.SG toto.PREP househouse.N.M.SG+SM biggermore.ADJ.COMP yescome.V.1S.PRES.[or].yes.ADV.PAST.[or].roof.N.M.SG+SM soso.ADV be.3S.PRESbe.V.3S.PRES DETthe.DET.DEF mortgagemortgage.N.SG PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P be.3S.PRES.NEGbe.V.3S.PRES.NEG andand.CONJ PRT.PASTafter.PREP get.NONFINget.V.INFIN Gwynname yescome.V.1S.PRES.[or].yes.ADV.PAST.[or].roof.N.M.SG+SM know.2Sknow.V.2S.PRES andand.CONJ pay.NONFINpay.V.INFIN IMum.IM feesfee.N.SG+PL.[or].bee.N.SG+SM+PL.[or].mee.N.SG+SM+PL DETthe.DET.DEF nurseryunk |
| | to tell the truth, within...in a few years we've moved house to a bigger house, haven't we, so our mortgage, isn't it, and had Gwyn, haven't we, you know, and paid, um, the nursery fees |
1126 | LER | +" wellCE ia greatCE # ond # dw i (ddi)m isio # &ax # dod i FangorCE am y rheswm syml # (ba)sai (y)n meddwl i ni # fynd â GwynCE # ar yr ynys dwy waith yr wsnos neu # roid o (y)n y meithrinfa # yn llawn amser . |
| | wellwell.ADV yesyes.ADV greatgreat.ADJ butbut.CONJ be.1S.PRESbe.V.1S.PRES PRON.1SI.PRON.1S NEGnot.ADV+SM wantwant.N.M.SG come.NONFINcome.V.INFIN toto.PREP Bangorname forfor.PREP DETthe.DET.DEF reasonreason.N.M.SG simplesimple.ADJ be.3S.CONDITbe.V.3S.PLUPERF PRTPRT think.NONFINthink.V.INFIN forto.PREP PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P go.NONFINgo.V.INFIN+SM withwith.PREP Gwynname onon.PREP DETthe.DET.DEF islandisland.N.F.SG two.Ftwo.NUM.F timetime.N.F.SG+SM DETthe.DET.DEF weekweek.N.F.SG oror.CONJ put.NONFINgive.V.INFIN+SM PRON.3SMhe.PRON.M.3S inin.PREP DETthe.DET.DEF nurseryunk PRTPRT fullfull.ADJ timetime.N.M.SG |
| | "well yes great but I don't want to come to Bangor for the simple reason that it would mean us taking Gwyn on the island twice a week or putting him in the nursery full-time" |
1242 | LER | soCE &=sniff <oedden ni meddwl> [//] ohCE oedden ni [//] GrahamCE a fi (y)n sôn +"/ . |
| | soso.ADV be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P think.NONFINthink.V.INFIN IMoh.IM be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P Grahamname andand.CONJ PRON.1SI.PRON.1S+SM PRTPRT mention.NONFINmention.V.INFIN |
| | so we were thinking...oh we were...Graham and I were saying... |
1242 | LER | soCE &=sniff <oedden ni meddwl> [//] ohCE oedden ni [//] GrahamCE a fi (y)n sôn +"/ . |
| | soso.ADV be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P think.NONFINthink.V.INFIN IMoh.IM be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P Grahamname andand.CONJ PRON.1SI.PRON.1S+SM PRTPRT mention.NONFINmention.V.INFIN |
| | so we were thinking...oh we were...Graham and I were saying... |
1277 | LER | (be)causeE pan oedden ni (y)n gwerthu tro dwytha (y)ma wan # oedd (y)na ffurflenni +// . |
| | becausebecause.CONJ whenwhen.CONJ be.1PL.IMPbe.V.1P.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P PRTPRT sell.NONFINsell.V.INFIN turnturn.N.M.SG previouslast.ADJ therehere.ADV nowweak.ADJ+SM.[or].pale.ADJ+SM be.3S.IMPbe.V.3S.IMPERF therethere.ADV formsforms.N.F.PL |
| | because when we were selling last time now, there were forms... |
1279 | LER | o'ch chdi (y)n gorod ticio (y)r boxCE neu oedda chdi (y)n gorod deud oedda chdi (y)n gadael y blindsCE oeddachd <o'n ni> [//] o'ch chdi (y)n gadael y curtainsCE oeddachd . |
| | be.2S.IMPunk PRON.2Syou.PRON.2S PRTPRT must.NONFINhave_to.V.INFIN tick.NONFINtick.V.INFIN DETthe.DET.DEF boxbox.N.SG.[or].pox.N.SG+SM oror.CONJ be.2S.IMPbe.V.2S.IMPERF PRON.2Syou.PRON.2S PRTPRT must.NONFINhave_to.V.INFIN say.NONFINsay.V.INFIN be.2S.IMPbe.V.2S.IMPERF PRON.3Syou.PRON.2S PRTPRT leave.NONFINleave.V.INFIN DETthe.DET.DEF blindsblind.ADJ+PL be.2S.IMPunk PRON.1PL.IMPbe.V.1S.IMPERF PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P be.2S.IMPunk PRON.2Syou.PRON.2S PRTPRT leave.NONFINleave.V.INFIN DETthe.DET.DEF curtainscurtain.N.SG+PL.[or].curtains.N.SG be.2S.IMPunk |
| | you had to tick the box or you had to say whether you were leaving the blinds, yes you were, were we...were you leaving the curtains, yes you were |
1298 | LER | ia (be)causeE dw i (y)n gwybod bod umCE # pan &ga [/] gafon ni <ail &n> [//] ailweirio fo rŵan de # bod # <o'ch chd(i)> [//] oedd o (ddi)m yn cael roid # y switchesCE # newydd # lle oedd yr hen rei . |
| | yesyes.ADV becausebecause.CONJ be.1S.PRESbe.V.1S.PRES PRON.1SI.PRON.1S PRTPRT know.NONFINknow.V.INFIN thatbe.V.INFIN IMum.IM whenwhen.CONJ get.1PL.PASTget.V.1P.PAST+SM PRON.1PLwe.PRON.1P secondsecond.ORD rewire.NONFINrewire.V.INFIN PRON.3SMhe.PRON.M.3S TAGnow.ADV be.NONFINbe.IM+SM be.2PL.IMPbe.V.INFIN PRON.2PLunk be.3S.IMPyou.PRON.2S PRON.3SMbe.V.3S.IMPERF NEGhe.PRON.M.3S PRTnot.ADV+SM get.NONFINPRT put.NONFINget.V.INFIN DETgive.V.INFIN+SM.[or].give.V.0.IMPERF+SM switchesthe.DET.DEF newunk wherenew.ADJ be.3S.IMPwhere.INT DETbe.V.3S.IMPERF oldthe.DET.DEF onesold.ADJ some.PRON+SM |
| | yes because I know that, um when we got it rewired now, right, that you....he couldn't put the new switches where the old ones were |